Is this song anti-atheist?

Friday 12th June 2009 02:59pm 1
orDover
orDover
68 Posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rov3pV9PsRI

No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one's laughing at God when they're starving or freezing or so very poor

No one laughs at God when the doctor calls after some routine tests
No one's laughing at God when it's gotten real late and their kid's not back from that party yet

No one laughs at God when their airplane starts to uncontrollably shake
No one's laughing at God when they see the one they love hand in hand with someone else and they hope that they're mistaken
No one laughs at God when the cops knock on their door and they say "We've got some bad new, sir,"
No one's laughing at God when there's a famine, fire or flood

But God can be funny
At a cocktail party while listening to a good God-themed joke or
Or when the crazies say he hates us and they get so red in the head you think that they're about to choke

God can be funny
When told he'll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie
Who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus

God can be so hilarious
Ha ha
Ha ha

No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one's laughing at God when they've lost all they got and they don't know what for

No one laughs at God on the day they realize that the last sight they'll ever see is a pair of hateful eyes
No one's laughing at God when they're saying their goodbyes

But God can be funny
At a cocktail party while listening to a good God-themed joke or
Or when the crazies say he hates us and they get so red in the head you think that they're about to choke

God can be funny
When told he'll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie
Who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus

God can be so hilarious

No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war

No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war

No one's laughing at God in a hospital
No one's laughing at God in a war

No one's laughing at God when they're starving or freezing or so very poor

No one's laughing at God
No one's laughing at God
No one's laughing at God
We're all laughing with God



What do you think?

My first reaction to this song was simple anger, but I know that one of the faults of my personality is that I'm quick to take offense. One of my friends pointed out that she believes the song is not speaking out against atheists, but against hypocritical people who only believe in God when it is convenient to them, like the celebrity who "finds Jesus" while in prison and gets a decreased sentence.

However, that reading seems like a simplification to me. First of all, the song (which is somber and serious in tone) seems to support the same sentiment behind the saying "There are no atheists in foxholes." In other words, it suggests that it's easy to be an atheist/agnostic when things are running along smoothly, but as soon as the going gets tough, everyone turns to God, regardless of their prior convictions.

In the last part of the song, it also seems to support the idea that the God who get's mocked (by atheists?) isn't an accurate depiction of God, but a simplified fictional wish-granting granpa with a big white beard who lives in the clouds. This is an attack often leveled against Dawkins/Hitchens/Harris etc., that they only "believe" in these dumbed-down versions of God that no sensible religious person actually believes in. In other words, it's easy to be an atheist if you only think of God like a genie or Jiminy Cricket. It's easy to laugh at that sort of God, but not easy to laugh at the real idea God supported by actual theology.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughs and reactions. Am I jumping to conclusions? Being too sensitive? Or does this song really seem to contain anti-atheist sentiments?
Monday 15th June 2009 01:00pm 2
atimetorend
atimetorend
23 Posts
Funny, it did not offend me, I heard it as generally pro-God, not anti-atheist. But I am so eager to separate myself from conservative Christianity that I don't find myself upset by general theism just now, my bias.

But if I was informed that Spektor is a conservative Christian, I would be offended by it, because I would feel she was mis-defining me. That's what can be offensive, that the lyrics presume to know what other people think, which is a huge part of what is offensive about Christianity. So maybe I should be more offended! I probably suspend judgement, not really knowing what she thinks.
Monday 15th June 2009 01:04pm 3
atimetorend
atimetorend
23 Posts
Plus, she's wrong, Joseph Heller and Kurt Vonegut come to mind. At least they laughed at God after the war, and could speak from first-hand experience.
Friday 3rd July 2009 12:02am 4
Brad
Brad
7 Posts
I find the song rather trivial, despite obviously trying hard to be controversal. I mean, people tend not to laugh while in war or in the hospital, so what does God really have to do with anything? Quite frankly, I haven't met anyone who laughs at God anyway. Christians, generally speaking, are quite humourless when it comes to their faith and atheists, well, can't laugh at something they don't believe exists. They may laugh at people who believe in God, but that is quite another subject altogether. Just seems like a silly song to me.
Sunday 5th July 2009 09:34pm 5
orDover
orDover
68 Posts
I agree, Brad. No one laughs at anything during serious situations. After thinking about the song a bit more, I concluded that it might be best to swap the word "God" for "belief in God." In that sense, religion and unreligious alike laugh at belief in God when that belief takes the form of a televangelist or Fred Phelps, but neither parties laugh at those who have believe in God during serious and difficults times. As atheists, we might talk about how misguided Christians are, call them deluded, or whatever else, but none of us is going to begrude a Christian their belief in God when they are laying in the hospital dying of cancer. We know that their belief provides them a very serious comfort.
Monday 24th August 2009 01:55am 6
ibises
ibises
6 Posts

I'm a Regina Spektor fan, but I don't know enough about her religious beliefs to guess what she's trying to say in this song. She's Jewish and makes references to both Jewish and Christian traditions in her songs, but I dunno if she's practicing. A Google search of "regina spektor religion" brings you her latest interview, where she says that she just thinks a lot about religion.*

Personally, I didn't think it was an anti-atheist song. I thought that it put forward different ways of thinking about God in general. The "crazies" she refers to, I took to mean people like those at Westboro Baptist.

Actually, I get an idea of God that's quite sinister at the end. I like the idea that God can take a joke and laugh at it, that he's someone who can laugh with you, have fun with you. But what if he MAKES the joke and laughs at it, and the joke is you, your life, and the tragedies you experience? The only laughing with you could do would be hollow. So, I actually find the song's tone sad and sarcastic about laughing with God, and sympathetic to human beings in general.

* On a lighter note, someone on WikiAnswers punctuated the "no" answer to "Is Regina Spektor a Christian?" with a sad face. I'm not sad; are you? :p

Friday 30th October 2009 10:04pm 7
atimetorend
atimetorend
23 Posts
James McGrath just linked to a post about this video HERE on his blog Exploring Our Matrix. He writes:
"It seems to hit the balance just about right between God/religion as something that provides comfort and hope, and God/religion as something that seems deserving of mockery."

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